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frithwks (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
johnniie...Cheers mate! Believe me I know where your coming from. You restore my faith in humanity with your last comment. It shows that you are open to ideas and are not allowing ego to control your actions.
As you are aware there are many scams around this subject and in many ways your first reaction was a healthy one...keep being sceptical just modify it with a little imagination.
johnniie (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
sorry, i was a bit quick at saying this was a fraud. and maybe i am wrong, i concede that, however i'm not completely convinced wether this works before i know why.
i've seen to many videos about engines, running on 100% hydrogen, that supposedly produce zero emissions.
frithwks (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
I apologize if your taking this personal..(Not my intention). I'm simply waiting for you to open your mind.
I'll answer all four in order.
1,Look at your first statements and tell me your not flaunting a superiority complex.
2,irrelevant to the argument
3,i agree, however still irrelevant to the argument.
4, this is addressed in the video and where your missing the point. I've already answered it I'll try another way...When turbo charging, do you steal from the energy of your engine??
johnniie (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
by "last question" i mean "4: Tell me why it is better to waste electric energy to make hydrogen, rather than making use of the electric energy directly, hence electric vehicles."
johnniie (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
youre trying to make it personal, i see. feeling brave? tell me, exactly and simply, the answer to my last question.
frithwks (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
Johnie...There is some truth to your comments. I agree with your argument regarding the electric cars efficiency and I can appreciate your reaction to the free energy claims in the videos description. However by your last rant its obvious your not capable of understanding whats going on here. Please dont blame others for your own lack of comprehension. Its hard enough to debate the issues without the red herrings...catch up or shut up.
johnniie (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
1: i never claimed to be genius.
2: hydrogen gas resources are small on planet earth. we'd have to produce hydrogen by electrolysis of water.
3: Electrolysis requires electric energy, and the production of an amount of hydrogen gas requires about twice the energy the same amount of hydrogen gas produces in combustion.
4: Tell me why it is better to waste electric energy to make hydrogen, rather than making use of the electric energy directly, hence electric vehicles.
Timmer714 has got it right
frithwks (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
cont..2...Forget about the introduction of the hydrogen and oxygen mix for now just concentrate on the inefficiencies we can exploit. If you are the genius your making out to be this will be a simple process for you. The numbers you come up with should be interesting. Regards....Grant
frithwks (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
Cont... I'd be more than happy to discuss this with you on a higher level if you are prepared to stop ranting your preconceived notions.
Physics and chemistry are huge subjects and both are part of this equation in quite intricate ways. Perhaps you should begin with a basic knowledge on the properties of the the power stroke of an internal combustion engine, the kinetic transfer during the power stroke and an analysis of the chemistry of those gasses during and after combustion.cont..
frithwks (November 30, 1999 at 12:00 am)
Johnnie..You're still not paying attention!.I dont like the term hho either but I used it to keep within the character limit.
Your wrong, It's definitely not H20 because that's water. 'Browns gas' if you want to be pedantic.
It seems like you're struggling with a very simple concept. Please read the comments over carefully. I'm not necessarily accepting whats being pushed in this video but your argument is on a too simplistic level and is not addressing the claims being made. Cont.. |
